“My Brothers Ganged Up Against Me” – Peter Okoye Bares it all in New

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Couple of days ago, Net.ng had Exclusive
Interview with Peter Okoye in his home as they
discussed the ongoing rift between the P-
Square brothers that had rocked the Nigerian
entertainment industry.
According to the publisher Ayeni
Adekunle, Peter Okoye was “fighting back tears”
as he bared his thoughts.

Read the excerpts from the interview here:

On how the break up could have happened in 2014:
The truth is, the fans should be happy
that we were able to drop the ‘Double Trouble’
album in 2014. What’s happening now should
have happened then. The issue was the fact
that I was in Psquare and it felt like I was in
fear. If I don’t do this, Psquare will break-up, if I
don’t do that, Psquare will scatter.

On not wanting Jude as a manager for the past four years:
Four years ago, I told Jude that he
needs to step down as our manager, because I
didn’t want to disrespect him as a brother, but
this is business, we have to structure it. And
Jude said to me that there’s a way I’ll talk to
him, and he’ll slap me. So I kept quiet. So, a
few hours after, Paul came to me and said if I
want Jude to step down it’s not a problem, but
it’ll mean that he (Paul) will go solo. The the
first time word got out about Psquare breaking
up, a lot of people called us, senators,
governors, and people like that. In fact three of
us were once in a private jet to go and see
someone who wanted to resolve our issues and
we didn’t speak to each other all through the
flight. At the end of the day, I swallowed my
pride for peace to reign and allowed Jude to
remain as our manager.

On not being on talking terms with his brother: I
and Paul stay together in this estate and the
last time I saw him was about a week ago.
Truth is, I’ve not been in talking terms with Paul
since December 2015 and that was why I
travelled in January because I had a lot on my

On how it started: Now listen to this, Psquare
featured on songs with J-
Martins, Bracket,LKT, 9ice and these 4 songs
were done by Paul alone, but guess what, did I
appear in the videos, YES. Now hear this, we
have other collabos
with Kaha, Darey, Ruggedman. I did these songs
alone. How come they don’t have videos? Paul
refused to appear in the videos. So I told Paul
that when next he does collabo alone, he should
be in the video alone, because it got a point
where artistes began to feel if they do a collabo
with Paul it gets a video but if it’s me it doesn’t
get a video. The last collabo we did was
with Flavour and I refused to do another one.
Even Flavour had to speak all the Igbo he
knows to convince me before I agreed to do it.
Only for my brother to come and tell me that
‘shey I thought you said you won’t appear in any
video that I did the collabo alone? Why did you
appear on this one?’. I was sad but I knew another one will come.

On the breaking point for him: So Tiwa
Savage called me, apparently Paul had gone to
do a song with her, not the campaign song they
are promoting now, another Psquare collabo
entirely. So she called me that she’s been trying
to reach Paul to get the CD of the song from
him that he’s already done his part, so I went to
Paul’s house to help ask for it and tell him that I
want to go to their studio to do my verse and he
said he doesn’t know where the CD is. I went to
the Mavin studio to meet Tiwa, when I got
there, she asked for the CD and I told her Paul
didn’t give me any CD, so I called him again and
gave the phone to Tiwa and told her on phone
that the CD is at Omole, so I got into the studio
recorded my verse and when I finished,
everybody was clapping. I was surprised only to
realize that Paul had gone to tell them that I
don’t sing or write songs. I felt really bad and
betrayed, but I covered up for him. I jokingly
asked Teebillz if they gave him Red Label and
he said yes, so I was like you guys caused it,
and we laughed over it. So when my assistant
went to pick up the CD, Paul and Jude started
shouting at him to tell Peter that what is he
doing at the Mavin studio? He knows how we
work. The next day, I went to Paul and told him
how I felt when I heard what he said. Only for
Jude to say that he made Paul the lead singer
of Psquare 8 years ago! A leader leads, he
doesn’t destroy.

On PSquare having zero structure : When it
comes to decision-making, it has always been a
Triangle formation, and the highest vote wins. I
never used to complain because we were all
okay, but what has changed now is the fact
that we’ve grown. You can make a certain
decision based on how we used to do it and it
may affect everyone as an individual, but it gets
to a point when the decisions taken never gets
to be my own and I began to wonder if anything
is wrong. I always get Ideas, most of Psquare
ideas come from me, and when I say Idea, I
mean materials we need to put out for people
to see, video, stage performances and all. But
when I come up with them, nobody wants to
accept it. I didn’t complain because people still
love what we do, but then again, there wasn’t
much competition in the industry back then. As
time goes, we should get better, it shouldn’t be
same triangle deciding, because if we continue
that same way, we’ll lose it. All I want is a
proper structure in the sense that, we need to
have proper management, business managers
and all. As I speak to you right now, we don’t
have any office, no structure. When this issue
started about five years ago, our lawyer told us
the way we run our business is wrong without a
structure. I don’t have a problem with doing
things as a family, but then the structure and
proper organization is important too. The name
Psquare is very big outside but inside we have
no structure, I see people like Audu of
Chocolate City, Mavin Records, even Ubi
Franklin and I wanted us to have a structure like
that. Psquare is just up there because of the
grace of God.

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On not getting enough recognition for his art:
It’s really sad that people have labeled me
‘Dancer’, and people don’t really know what I do
for Psquare. Kudos to Paul, I’m not a good
songwriter, in-fact I’ll rate myself 30%, so when
it comes to song writing, I give it to Paul 100%.
However, not writing songs does not disqualify
you from being a musician. I can tell you for
free that a Nigerian wrote two of the songs
on Rihanna’s new album. I’ve travelled a lot and
most times people ask, ‘which one are you, the
singer or the dancer’? And it’s really sad. In
Psquare, I am the creative person, I can sit-
down and tell you what people want to hear,
what they want to see and what they want to
learn from Psquare. But it’s not something to
brag about.

On their deal with Universal causing problems :
This whole thing began when Paul went online
and started post lyrics of most of our songs on
Instagram that he wrote them all, just because
Peter brought in something to the table. I’ve
been trying to bring more business for Psquare I
didn’t know it was going to cause problems. I
sent my manager to a meeting in Senegal to
meet with Universal music about getting us
deals, and when he came back, the way they
responded to him wasn’t encouraging. So I had
to send Diouf, the footballer to help get the
documents and convince my brothers before we
could pull through with the deal. And after some
months, we started making money. Meanwhile,
while filling the forms, Jude filled everything as
Psquare. So the first money came, we shared
it. The second money was bigger, it came and
we shared it too. That was when Paul said we
had to re-fill the form and give proper credit to
the songwriter (Himself) and if the form is not
brought back, he’s going to expose me and tell
the world that he writes all the songs. And the
next day he went online to post those lyrics. So
my question is, when he was doing that what
did Jude do about it? Absolutely nothing!


On Paul being “weak”: I remember I once told
Paul something, when Jude was using the term
‘Our Money’ when he just became our manager,
that was when we made our first 1 million. I
called Paul and told him that our former
manager used to make about 15%, now that
Jude is our manager, let’s think of a percentage
that we’ll be giving him and put it on paper.
Paul was like, it’s not necessary. Probably, he
went to tell Jude about it. I’m sorry to say this,
but I think Paul is weak. You know they say
change is constant, you can’t stay at one spot,
as the industry moves, you move. So I won’t say
the problem we have is money. I think
everybody is just dragging power unnecessarily.
Imagine Jude telling me that he’s in charge of
Psquare and there’s nothing Peter and Paul can
do about it, and I look at Paul he’s quiet about
it. I’ve never seen where a manager talks to his
artistes anyhow. If there’s any issue you should
call us aside quietly to talk about it.

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On Paul starting another group behind his back:
On December 14, 2015 we sat down to have a
meeting hoping to be able to set a proper
structure in place, but Paul noticed that it
wasn’t working the way he wanted, so he said
he wants to tell us that he’s starting a new
group. I thought he meant he wanted to start a
record label, and he was like no, he’s starting a
new group that he belongs to. And Jude simply
said, ‘anybody stop you’? He picked up his
phones and walked out of the meeting. I felt it
had already been discussed behind me. I later
found out that Paul is already recruiting the
group and Jude is their manager. At the
moment I heard they are called ‘The MVPs’ I
don’t know what it means yet. So how do you
expect me to be managed by the same person
we’ve been having issues with, who is now the
manager of the other group. There’ll surely be
conflict of interest. And it actually happened
two weeks ago

On why he went on social media to rant : Jude
called me, after I had said he’s fired. He called
me on a Thursday to say ‘Hope you know we
are going to the embassy tomorrow for that
show in Holland’. I know about the show, it was
already booked before the issues started, so I
told him, ‘Bro you are not my manager, talk to
my manager’. He said, ‘Noted’. And the next
day, they went to the embassy with the new
group members, which means they had already
set up their interview at the embassy because
it’s not possible to get an appointment in less
than 24 hours. So I traced the organisers, and
told them that Jude does not represent us, he
represents only Paul. I told them this is what it
takes to get Peter and Paul, Peter alone or Paul
alone. So I went on social media to protect our
careers, because if I didn’t do it, Psquare will
not release any materials anytime soon, they’ll
be busy promoting their artistes.

On firing Jude as they manager: The day I fired
Jude was at a concert. It was the day I came
back, we had a show, so I went straight to the
venue in Lagos and told Jude I want to talk to
him, and he said I should say anything I want to
say in front of everyone. I was like that was the
same attitude Paul gave me before I travelled.
So Jude was like if I like I should get out, and I
was like guy don’t embarrass me. He said who
are you, because you think you are Psquare? So
I told him openly that if he cannot resolve me
and Paul’s issue, he doesn’t deserve to be our
manager, and he said I should get out. There
and then I told him ‘You are fired’! He looked at
me and said, ‘You fit fire me’?. That was when I
entered my car and started Tweeting. How else
can you take him out?

On his heartbreaking conversation with Paul :
And before I announced my management, I
wanted my mind to be clear, so I went back to
Paul, this time we were alone and we spoke a
lot, I told him I had no issues with him, but he
needs to stop letting Jude use him as a shield.
Both of us started shedding tears, and when we
finished he still said he hopes I’m not here to
tell him that I still want Psquare and I told him I
want to move on, because he already has a
manager (Jude) and I don’t, so I had to
structure myself too. And I didn’t want to allow
the Psquare name to fade before moving on.
Look at Don Jazzy and Dbanj, when they broke
up, they waited for like 6 months and had to
start again. Now, that Psquare just broke up, let
me use the name to move on quickly, because
there’s no time.

On if their mum was still alive : To be honest
with you, I feel if our mum was still alive, we
would have pushed her to her grave with this
whole thing. It’s really sad that even with
everything going on, I still stand with Paul.

On moving on : I hear lot of people think it’s all
a stunt, and that’s what I really want to put an
end to. It’s not a stunt at all. It has been going
on for a while. When Jude didn’t come to my
wedding, people started saying we broke up and
then others said it’s a stunt, then when Paul
posted those lyrics stuff on Instagram people
thought it was a stunt too, but the truth is that,
this is not and has never been a publicity stunt.
I am telling you the truth, I am moving on
because people are already getting tired of this
Psquare brouhaha, now I have my manager
Olatunde Michaels and I expect everybody to
respect that. I am a family man, a musician,
singer and dancer, if I don’t move on, Psquare
will collapse and there’ll be nothing left. Already
Paul has done two songs without me but no one
is saying anything, he did a song with his artiste
‘Muno’ with his name as Rudeboy did they
feature me? He did a song with Tiwa Savage,
did they feature me? Last week Yemi Alade sent
me her album track list to help her share on
Instagram, guess what I saw, she had a song
with Psquare that I didn’t even know about. Only
Paul did it.

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On the next steps for him : Because I announced
a new management, people feel am the one
going solo, but Paul has already gone solo, he’s
moved on and didn’t need to announce any new
management because he still works with Jude,
so I had to announce mine and believe it or not,
people are booking me for gigs already. And
guess what, I’ll still perform Psquare songs,
nobody can stop me, nobody can stop Paul too,
we didn’t have a contract with Jude, so I have
the right to perform Psquare songs especially
the ones I took part in. I’ll also consider
releasing solo songs and even albums. Truth is
– in the last album Paul did some songs alone, I
did some songs alone. ‘Bring It On’ was Paul
alone, ‘Eje Ajo’, ‘Shekini’ was done by me alone.
Remember the 4 songs ‘Free For Fans’ that we
released, those songs were removed from the
last album and I leaked them. I have some
songwriters already, V-Tek writes for me, and
I’m still bringing up more’.
On having to share their properties: Because of
what was happening, it was like two against
one, so I said let’s share our properties. When I
said that, Paul said if we want to share our
properties, Jude must get the same share with
us otherwise Psquare will split and I was like
‘SPLIT-AGAIN?’. Our lawyer came and told Paul
that it’s wrong to share it equally with Jude, but
he insisted, so we divided every property we
owned in Lagos, Jos, America, Abuja. In-fact the
right and left wing of the Square Ville mansion
belongs to Paul and Jude now. So that was how
we shared all our properties equally among the
three of us about two or three years ago. Three
of us have properties close to each other in
Parkview and that’s why I want to sell my own
and move to Banana Island.

On their wives: People think we changed when
we started having wives. Before my mum died,
she was at St Nicholas hospital on the island,
and my sisters were living in this house (in
Lekki), and every morning before my wife goes
to work, she’ll leave home at 5am in the
morning to go and stay with my mum even
before we get there ourselves. And when she
closes from work, she’s back with her again. So
I just laugh when I hear people say my mum
didn’t like my wife. It’s my wife and sister that
prepare my mum’s meals in the kitchen. Now
let me shock you: our wives, the three of them
are the closest set of people you can imagine.
Even with all that’s going on. It’s really
surprising. Somehow, they respect themselves
and stayed out of the whole drama and I
respect them a lot. And that’s somehow what
has kept us together for this long, otherwise
Psquare would have ended like two or three
years back.

On the future of PSquare : The truth is I feel
happy it has come, because I’ve been staying in
Psquare in fear for the last four years. The
situation now is, if you want Psquare to
perform, you’ll have to get in touch with two
management, I don’t care if you pay Paul’s
management more than they pay me, once we
are able to agree Psquare is still there. I just
don’t want to have a management that feels
he’s in control because he’s my elder brother.
And because of the legacy that I want Psquare
to be remembered for, that was why I went to
talk to Paul the last time. I don’t want us to
start doing beef songs, or we see at the clubs
and we don’t greet each other, or ignore our
kids and stuff like that. And even if Psquare
breaks up, I still want us to have our
relationship as brothers. If I’ve regretted
anything in my life so far, I swear to God this is
not one of them, I’m happy because I’ve been in
pain for a long time. It’s good if we go and do
stuff separately so that even IF we come back
we’ll have respect for each other. I wish Paul
the best and I wish Jude the best as well”

Hmmm,  this is a big one…  #Teamcodedwap# just hope for the best for the duo.

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